RevolutionTruth Panel – Occupy 2012: Battle for our Freedoms

Written on:January 22, 2012
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RevolutionTruth hosted a live panel discussion on Jan. 19, 2012 with Michael Moore, Chris Hedges, Kevin Zeese, Dr. Margaret Flowers, Birgitta Jónsdóttir, & Jimmy Holovat. We discussed The Occupy Movement’s complex identity, what it has meant to people, strengths and weaknesses of this nascent movement, and hopes for its future. We explored ideas on how to engender real change in a world where millions understand the imperative of a profound course correction in our systems and the need for real hope and vision for our collective futures.

Video will be available soon is now available on our YouTube channel or watch it below.


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  1. Sven Marquard says:

    Thanks for this update !
    Can’t wait listening to it !

    Keep up the Revolution for the TRUTH !!

    Lotta Love …Jonny 🙂

  2. Fred Epps says:

    Hi Tangerine,

    A very good discussion. I did notice that even with an equal gender balance on the panel, the men did more of the talking.. or so it seemed to me…

    ‘Non-violence’ is a term that needs definition. Many people feel that even taking over a public roadway is a form of violence against those who use it. Yet those who don’t take such actions are fated to be ignored. The largest demos in history didn’t prevent the Iraq war. Although I don’t believe in violence against any living being, it’s been very useful in expanding my field of action, to try to understand and read about the Black Bloc and other groups that are more aggressive.


    • Tangerine says:

      Hi Fred, yes, agreed on the women speaking comment. This is new for us, so, we’ve a lot of practicing to do to get the art and science down for these panels. We’re also planning on raising significant funds to that we can do video and be a little less rustic:).

      Agreed too on “nonviolence” needing defining. There appears to be a lot of disagreement on that within Occupy. I’d never say taking a street is violent, at least not for what I would consider to be a legitimate protest, but I would never condone property violence. Someone in Portland broke all the windows of the Albina Community Bank, a community-owned bank, one week after Bank Transfer Day. Not only was that a poor mixed message, but, violence like that is violence to the surrounding community. We are not there in this nation (at least not in most of our more fortunate communities) and we needn’t go there by choice. We need to take the higher road every single second that we can, while we have that choice, IMO.

      • Oli says:

        I wnedor how student affairs would fit into this video . . . Theorists keep saying that student’s need to be engaged and develop holistically, yet even technologically is divided, though portals such as blackboard or even facebook are making attempts. If student affairs personnel are to continue to be employed, how do you see technology integrating ALL of university life?

  3. Dr. James R. Pannozzi D.O.M., LAc says:

    I am very pleased to have found this web site, after reading of it in a post by Chris Hedges.

    To see and realise that there are many people who have perceived the fundamentally unacknowledged sabotage and subversion of our government by corporatist and special interests is exciting. That these people are actively engaged in organising the most significant socio-philosophical-political movement in the history of our country is a sign that there is hope for the future.

    For a long time many of us have had the feeling that there was something fundamentally gone wrong with our government and, though bits and pieces came through, reliable news and information concerning the exact nature of the defects never seemed to be made available. Useless debates between “left” and “right” obscured the issues. A clue to the nature of the information vacuum was revealed to me after seeing a movie some time ago, “Man of the Century”, in which a 1920’s style newsman, complete with hilarious 1920’s slang, appears at a modern day newspaper and somehow time after time manages to be the only one able to figure out what’s what and who’s who.

    Web sites such as this one fill that information gap by avoiding corporatist entanglements and focusing on fundamental issues which, somehow, seem…omitted or distorted by conventional media and sites.

    For OWS, this is the beginning of the beginning. For corporatists and special interests, the beginning of the END.

    Thanks !

  4. Stephanie says:

    Tangerine, Thanks for continually reminding us that this is about our survival. I think it’s important to focus on this critical focal point, and to distinguish ourselves on that basis from prior social movements. What we need to do is find a basis for agreement that we are not going to survive unless we attend to these critical issues we are all facing together and that the New World Order strategy of eliminating useless feeders and shoring up the elite is not the way to go!

    • Said says:

      Probably not even 2.1 stuff, but you slouhd really explore the features some mail servers have. One of the things I don’t like about jabberd I can’t have a domain aliases (very important if your domain name slouhd be changed) or user aliases … and the problem with the [un]reliability of the TCP protocol (messages can be lost, presence is not updated timely) – maybe a user-space TCP implementation could solve this?

  5. Nika says:

    @roidroid Breaking incellettual property (this is the IP you were referring to, right) laws is illegal no matter who is doing it. Just because a student can do it, and doesn’t apparently get caught, doesn’t mean that it is right. I agree that higher education is not keeping up with modern information technology, but I think downloading copyrighted material without permission is not one of the first things we need to get them to start doing.Let’s go to open source textbooks, etc.

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